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First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby hockey85 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:46 am

With little fanfare at Malmstrom on 30 January 2012, for the first time in ICBM history, all women pulled alert in a Minuteman Missile squadron. They "manned" sites A01 thru E01 in the 10th Missile Squadron. Below are the links for what was posted on Malmstrom's website. Also, someone else took the initiative to post it on CNN's iReport. That link is below as well.

http://www.malmstrom.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123288508

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-747359? ... 2Fnewsiest
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby ILCS20 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:35 pm

Good for them!!

Good for the Air Force, too.

Not to appear untrusting, but was this event contrived? -- if it were not facilitated, it seems doubtrful it could have happened without intervention in the scheduling arena.
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby PASMAN II on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:49 pm

If a guy was wearing his lock, I would call him a friggin dork. So to be fair to all, Lt. Payne- You look like a friggin dork. LOSE THE LOCK.
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby Capt. Bill on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:49 pm

ICBMGuy wrote:We nerds used to hang our locks on our T.O. bags. I guess the the flight suit is the NEW location of choice. I am with you PASMAN II....she needs to LOSE the lock.


Yea but we had those big heay dial locks.
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby PASMAN II on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:55 pm

This is an Official Air Force photo, right? We all need that extra pair of eyes every now and then. I don't know what they call them now-a-days, but it seems to me the squadron DO or CC should have given these Crewdogs a "last look" before allowing the picture to be taken. Because.... If crew life is this "casual", I am now very concerned about how they handle the nuclear part of the job. Zipper heads out. No t-shirt. Pen flap curls. Locks being worn like earrings. I can't look at this photo anymore. Some squadron manager needs a good a$$-kicking.
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby notlaw99 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:09 pm

It kind of reminds me about BG Jerald G. Falls comment about the 564th SMS one day when he was really piss of at them.
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby Scruge on Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:04 pm

Things have really changed since my time, never thought I'd see a bundt cake at Pre-D.
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby SAC Killer on Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:08 pm

notlaw99 wrote:It kind of reminds me about BG Jerald G. Falls comment about the 564th SMS one day when he was really piss of at them.


Skybird, this is RED LEADER ONE! I expect the whole lot of you to shape up right now! :)
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby PASMAN II on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:04 pm

During our crew time, SAC treated the guys like sh!t. It's nice to see the girls have some cake at their Pre-D tea party! :D
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby TerrorOfTucson on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:33 am

I'll grant the zippers, but the T-shirt I can see. The lock--I kept mine on the TO bag, but hey, I wore crew blues for 327 alerts plus MPT rides, evals, site visits, etc., and that was '70-'78. Green bags I'm not knowing from 35-10.

Give it a rest.

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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby PASMAN II on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:53 am

Bad Sam, nobody has responded to this discussion for 2 days. You're a little late to the party for the "give it a rest" advice. :D
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby silo warrior on Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:54 pm

What is the small icon on there name tags that looks like a airplane or a small tree? When they have PRE D is it for each Squadron or the whole wing? Being a TITAN II crew member was used to a large PRE D we had 72 crew members at PRE D. The picture shows one crew member in the back with a name tag with a yellow boarder does that indicate they are Standboard? Was in TITAN II when first women were brought into the crew force. My wife of thirty years was one of the first and only 2nd LT. to be selected for Missiles in the first group. Dont recall if we ever had an all female crew pull alert in TITAN II while I was there. I do remember one time there were a MCCC DMCCC and MFT that were female on one crew. My wife still has the artical from the Air Force Times that lists the first officer females selected for training into the Titan II Crew Force training. Best of luck to all of them and may all there checks be H.Q.s!

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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby ram02 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:54 am

silo warrior wrote:What is the small icon on there name tags that looks like a airplane or a small tree?


It's a spade that symbolizes the 10th Missile Squadron as the "First Ace in the Hole."
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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby hockey85 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:17 pm

silo warrior wrote:What is the small icon on there name tags that looks like a airplane or a small tree?


It's a spade based upon the 10MS heritage. Each squadron has a unique symbol that represents their squadron.

silo warrior wrote: When they have PRE D is it for each Squadron or the whole wing?


Mission Planning is done as a squadron prior to Pre-D. Once all squadrons are done, they all go to Pre-D together.

This is all about to change however. We are going to how pilots supposedly "do" mission planning... it will take approximately 3 hours to accomplish what we do now in about an hour with extra stuff added on. I feel sorry for the crews at the farther sites who will be getting back home even later once this is implemented.

silo warrior wrote: The picture shows one crew member in the back with a name tag with a yellow boarder does that indicate they are Standboard?


The dark blue with yellow border name tag is for instructors at Malmstrom. Black with a white border nametag is for Stan/Eval at Malmstrom.

silo warrior wrote:Best of luck to all of them and may all there checks be H.Q.s!


Unfortunetely we no longer use HQ to signify a Highly Qualified rating anymore. Missiles leadership got pilot envy and went to how pilots rate people. We now have Q1, Q2, and Q3.

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Re: First all-women nuclear alert in Minuteman Squadron

Postby silo warrior on Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:36 pm

Thanks for clearing up the new rating system. I still think they should go back to the two piece Crew Blues they look a lot sharper than the flight suits. Why are they trying to make missile crews look like aircrews? Everyone knew if they saw the Crew Blues that you were on a Combat Missile Crew and not a aircrew. Who knows they may have you all wearing the white coveralls like the old days before long. Is Maj. Gen Donny Alston still in charge of the missile force? I was at D.M. when he first upgraded to DMCCC pulled a few alerts with him. I figure if he was in charge being and old TITAN II Crew Dog maybe he would get the old crew blues put back into service

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