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Peacekeeper video

Postby banjodog on Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:19 am

Peacekeeper video from 1980: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VACjHMrvJXM
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Re: Peacekeeper video

Postby Capt. Bill on Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:35 am

Given how far we went from Atlas in 1959 to MM III in 1970, I wonder where we would be now 43 years later if not for SALT treaties and the end of the Cold War.
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Re: Peacekeeper video

Postby SAC Killer on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:17 pm

We would still have SAC. We'd still have Minuteman, probably all 9 wings. In the 90s we'd have deployed the Small ICBM (SICBM), in development in the 80s and cancelled. The missileers really wanted that one! It lived in a hardened, ground-mobile, re-usable launcher. Also the crew was in a hardened mobile launch control center. A single Mark 21 so totally flexible targeting. Who knows how many? SAC wanted 2000 Minuteman but only got 1000.

By now the SICBM would have either proven cost-effective and still be around, or would have been decommissioned because maintenance cost was too high. Or due to social pressure from people with the silly fear that if one was parked near them, they'd be obliterated.

But Minuteman is so cost-effective I believe it would still be around...and of course it is.
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Re: Peacekeeper video

Postby banjodog on Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:46 pm

SAC Killer wrote:Also the crew was in a hardened mobile launch control center.


I really wish I had a picture of the HML (hardened mobile launcher) that was parked in bldg. 3081 (VECB vehicles) when it was at Malmstrom for testing. It looked so cool. Heck, I probably could have opened the cab doors and looked inside too, if they were unlocked.
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Re: Peacekeeper video

Postby hockey85 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:54 am

banjodog wrote:
SAC Killer wrote:Also the crew was in a hardened mobile launch control center.


I really wish I had a picture of the HML (hardened mobile launcher) that was parked in bldg. 3081 (VECB vehicles) when it was at Malmstrom for testing. It looked so cool. Heck, I probably could have opened the cab doors and looked inside too, if they were unlocked.


The Malmstrom AFB museum has pictures of the HML while it was at Malmstrom. I have seen them. I will check with the museum curator and try and get some digital copies and upload them here. Also, check out the video below of the HML during testing at Malmstrom...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsEvI7dB5Ak
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Re: Peacekeeper video

Postby banjodog on Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:06 am

hockey85 wrote:Also, check out the video below of the HML during testing at Malmstrom...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsEvI7dB5Ak


That was not it. It was white, as in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXoZyCVFIPA
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Re: Peacekeeper video

Postby SAC Killer on Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:28 am

If I recall correctly those HMLs were basically mock-ups used for concept definition and to explain the program to the powers that be. I think the program was cancelled before any actual pre-production prototypes were built. But when I was at AFRPL, shortly before the program was cancelled, one of the companies competing for the development contract fired a couple of Small ICBM stages as a technology demonstration. This was at no cost to the taxpayers, except my troops made sure the events were performed safely. We stood on a hill and watched the firings, vertically upward, a few hundred yards away. Not as grand as watching a launch at Vandy, but still a great show and we were a lot closer to the action!
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