Ephemera

For general discussion about almost anything missiles. Come on in, pull up a chair and let's talk about any missile related matters and missile news not covered in other forums.

Ephemera

Postby MajorG1000 on Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:05 am

I was just surfing the many avenues of Ebay when I came across a farmer from Missouri near Whiteman AFB selling sections of Hardened intersite Cable Network (HICS) cable which were removed from his farm when the F models were decommissioned at Whiteman. He is selling 6 to 8 inch sections for around $35 per section (if you buy 3 he will send you a 4th one FREE!). It is worth looking at his listing for the write-up he has explaining what the Minuteman IIs were all about. He also has "testimonials" from people who have purchased one or more pieces of this Cold War History you can hold in your hand.
I don't think there is a need to act quickly on this purchase, as one of the pictures he includes is of the pile of cable from which he acquired the sections. The copper alone may be worth the $35 bucks.
CDB-63 742 SMS DMCCC/MCCC 1980 - 1983
ACP Qualified 1983
91 DOTI Dual Qualified 1983 - 1984
91 SMW Staff 1985
4 ACCS/ALCS 1986
44 SMW/DCM Staff 1986-1988
321 Alerts/15 Standboard Evaluations
MajorG1000
4 RVs
4 RVs
 
Posts: 990
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:38 am

Re: Ephemera

Postby Batman on Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:53 pm

Finding HIC Sale - Nominal Cost
Value of HIC - Priceless
Copper - http://www.investing.com/commodities/copper

Good score!
Bill
Retired IA Raconteur
44 MIMS - CTT 311 69-72
3362 IS (Stateside tour) 72-74
741 SMS HO-TEL Flight 74-77
Pentagon (5E413) - 9-11-01
User avatar
Batman
3 RVs
3 RVs
 
Posts: 473
Joined: Thu May 09, 2013 2:32 am
Location: Bowie, MD

Re: Ephemera

Postby TerrorOfTucson on Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:40 pm

What I'd like is a Lima LF marker; got lots of alerts at Lima-1.
Bad Sam
220 TII alerts under Arizona ('70-75)
107 (36s & 24s) MMM alerts under Missouri ('75-78)
TerrorOfTucson
5 RVs
5 RVs
 
Posts: 1321
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:07 am
Location: Oregon

Re: Ephemera

Postby Bill in Missouri on Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:42 pm

I did accumulate some "keepsakes" during my 19 years in MM at Ellsworth and Grand Forks. I have a Safing Pin 3rd Stage Ignition mounted on a nice walnut plaque with the round read banner attached bearing that nomenclature. I also have and SCS Safing Plug & Key which I believe came from MM1 at Ellsworth. At one time I had the tip of the RV nose cone from a MMIII. This was not the entire RV cover, just the tip (about 2 feet high) which contained the motors that pulled off the RV cover in flight. The two side motor access doors were removed from it and it had a cork tip and the rest was like an ablative rubber. I heard that the cork was treated with some sort of material to keep rats from nawing on it so I painted the tip green enamel and the rest white enamel and mounted it on a piece of nice plywood. I handmade aluminum covers for the open door and riveted them on. To finish it off I spray painted a couple of the Minuteman (the guy holding a missile) emblems on the sides in black. It really looked nice but I never really had a good place to display it at home. Just after I got rid of it (I cannot recall what happened to it), a guy from the munitions area called and asked if I wanted the two missing side panels - oops too late. I admit I was always a bit hinky about even having it in my home and expected OSI to make a swat type raid at anytime. Leavenworth was not very appealing at the time.

Bill in Missouri
Bill in Missouri
44SMW MMI 63-69 Ops, 71-73 Maint
15AF DOTM 69-71
321 SMW MMIII 73-75, 78-81 Maint
SAC IG 75-78 Msl Maint Team
User avatar
Bill in Missouri
2 RVs
2 RVs
 
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Ozark, Missouri

Re: Ephemera

Postby Batman on Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:32 pm

Bill in Missouri wrote: ...I admit I was always a bit hinky about even having it in my home and expected OSI to make a swat type raid at anytime. Leavenworth was not very appealing at the time.


I would be if I was you. The stuff on the cork was Dow Fungicide B [if memory serves], and was/is extremely poisonous. As for the OSI raid, Google "shapes DOE." In the 80s it took the equivalent of a TS/Compartment to see the specific shape of a warhead at the museum in Albuquerque.Times have changed, though.
Bill
Retired IA Raconteur
44 MIMS - CTT 311 69-72
3362 IS (Stateside tour) 72-74
741 SMS HO-TEL Flight 74-77
Pentagon (5E413) - 9-11-01
User avatar
Batman
3 RVs
3 RVs
 
Posts: 473
Joined: Thu May 09, 2013 2:32 am
Location: Bowie, MD

Re: Ephemera

Postby MajorG1000 on Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:33 am

I have very few things. My Squadron Stein, an SCS safing lock and key...probably a MM I. When I was at Ellsworth in Maintenence they found a bunch of stuff that was MM I related, and were giving it out, (as opposed to throwing it out). I have all the pins and patches I earned for my Crew Blues, along with one set of Crew Blues to include Dickey,(later a scarf), Shirt, Pants, belt, boots, and a grease pencil in the breast pocket. I also have the Green Nylon Flight Jacket I was issued with the day-glo orange lining. I also have one of the 500 belt buckles I designed as a fund raiser for the 1984 Olympic Arena.
One of my Crew partners, Dave Kramer found a MM III thrust nozzle while walking along the Vandenberg coastline that he kept. He guessed it was from a bird that was destroyed shortly after launch. I think it was something from an Alien Spacecraft.
CDB-63 742 SMS DMCCC/MCCC 1980 - 1983
ACP Qualified 1983
91 DOTI Dual Qualified 1983 - 1984
91 SMW Staff 1985
4 ACCS/ALCS 1986
44 SMW/DCM Staff 1986-1988
321 Alerts/15 Standboard Evaluations
MajorG1000
4 RVs
4 RVs
 
Posts: 990
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:38 am

Re: Ephemera

Postby Capt. Bill on Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:01 am

At one of our Minot MM I reunions someone had a MM I LCF code pack, one with all the pins. Deputies always had to make sure they were dissipated when they were changed out.
MM I, DMCCC 741st, 742nd SMS Oct 69 - Oct 71 3 HQs and a Select Crew rating
MM III DMCCC, 742nd SMS Oct 71 - Feb 72
MM III MCCC, 742nd SMS Feb 72 - Aug 72
GT 07,08,09GM - Nov 1971 (key turned all three)
User avatar
Capt. Bill
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1518
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Houston, Texas

Re: Ephemera

Postby MajorG1000 on Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:14 pm

I wish I had a SAS Document...LOL.
CDB-63 742 SMS DMCCC/MCCC 1980 - 1983
ACP Qualified 1983
91 DOTI Dual Qualified 1983 - 1984
91 SMW Staff 1985
4 ACCS/ALCS 1986
44 SMW/DCM Staff 1986-1988
321 Alerts/15 Standboard Evaluations
MajorG1000
4 RVs
4 RVs
 
Posts: 990
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:38 am

Re: Ephemera

Postby TerrorOfTucson on Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:53 pm

I don't want a SAS document, not even a practice one, but I do remember having specific identifiers on the PAS for launch and termination messages, which SHALL NOT be repeated by me even after 45 years. I forget when they went away.
Bad Sam
220 TII alerts under Arizona ('70-75)
107 (36s & 24s) MMM alerts under Missouri ('75-78)
TerrorOfTucson
5 RVs
5 RVs
 
Posts: 1321
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:07 am
Location: Oregon

Re: Ephemera

Postby MajorG1000 on Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:54 am

When I taught CCP (Command Control Procedures) otherwise know as EWO, to the Bomber, Tanker and PACCS crews at Ellsworth I had a bunch of Training SAS (Just like the ones used in MPT Evaluations and HHQ Execises), which I was responsible for. They were accountable items and classified, although they didn't require Two Person Control. I would take them in a briefcase from the WCP to the Squadron Training Building which had a classified auditorium where I would teach the monthy EWO. Although I never lost, or otherwise misplaced these documents, it always scared the chit out of me to have to carry them around.
"AIR FORCE OFFICER STRUCK BY CAR WHILE CROSSING STREET: TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS SCATTERED TO THE FOUR WINDS!"
"SAC GOES ON GLOBAL ALERT" Film at eleven...

...and yes, there was that one aircrew member who couldn't seem to tear open the SAS. Nobody wants to be "That Guy".
CDB-63 742 SMS DMCCC/MCCC 1980 - 1983
ACP Qualified 1983
91 DOTI Dual Qualified 1983 - 1984
91 SMW Staff 1985
4 ACCS/ALCS 1986
44 SMW/DCM Staff 1986-1988
321 Alerts/15 Standboard Evaluations
MajorG1000
4 RVs
4 RVs
 
Posts: 990
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:38 am

Re: Ephemera

Postby Capt. Bill on Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:17 am

TerrorOfTucson wrote:I don't want a SAS document, not even a practice one, but I do remember having specific identifiers on the PAS for launch and termination messages, which SHALL NOT be repeated by me even after 45 years. I forget when they went away.


I don't say them either though I didn't know they went away. I remember ones for launch, DEFCON change, EMPS hold and even one to end the war.
MM I, DMCCC 741st, 742nd SMS Oct 69 - Oct 71 3 HQs and a Select Crew rating
MM III DMCCC, 742nd SMS Oct 71 - Feb 72
MM III MCCC, 742nd SMS Feb 72 - Aug 72
GT 07,08,09GM - Nov 1971 (key turned all three)
User avatar
Capt. Bill
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1518
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Houston, Texas

Re: Ephemera

Postby Capt. Bill on Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:21 am

I wonder how many EWO revs there have been. When I got to Minot in Sept 1969 it was Rev. C and when I left in Aug 1972 it was Rev. H. Older guys used to joke that Rev. A was simply 1-2 Salvo, 3-4 Ripple. You were probably lucky and didn't have to worry about EMPs.
MM I, DMCCC 741st, 742nd SMS Oct 69 - Oct 71 3 HQs and a Select Crew rating
MM III DMCCC, 742nd SMS Oct 71 - Feb 72
MM III MCCC, 742nd SMS Feb 72 - Aug 72
GT 07,08,09GM - Nov 1971 (key turned all three)
User avatar
Capt. Bill
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1518
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Houston, Texas

Re: Ephemera

Postby Steven Mayne on Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:23 am

I bought some and am making mini shadow boxes for each of my sons with the cable, a letter signed by farmer and a pic of buried cable sign. Nice guy to deal with. I think he was going to box up big sections and ship to China, but he couldn't bring himself to and stayed with American buyers.
Steven Mayne
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:20 am


Return to Missile Coffee House

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 36 guests

cron