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Re: Use this topic for all posts for now.

Postby TerrorOfTucson on Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:25 pm

Vid for Dropping the Socket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoxB88rL_2M
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Postby Batman on Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:41 pm

I came across this BBC vid about F.E. Warren. I was struck by both the differences and similarities between my recollections and what was portrayed in the segment.

Missileers (BBC documentary about ICBM launch crews)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1tMx27Q4O0
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Postby TerrorOfTucson on Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:06 pm

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Postby MajorG1000 on Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:51 am

Interesting BBC video. WTH was that missile the Minuteman crew launched at Vandenberg?
I don't understand something. The error the MCCC made. Did that force him into cross training to be a Navigator, or was that something completely unrelated to his bust? People selected for rated positions aren't usually "forced" into those positions, they are usually applied for and given out very selectively. Has that changed? Could it really be that one screw up and you have to find a new career field is now the norm? I mean really, 5 months before during his evaluation cycle he was given an HQ. If that is truly the case, then all the changes supposedly made after the cheating scandal have been for naught. I do remember a case of an Evaluator busting a ride and being put back on line crew...so that wasn't unusual. So much has changed since I was on crew. I guess both crew members have to use both hands to turn keys now due to their proximity to one another. Maybe this film was made before the scandals broke. All I can say is I am glad I served when I did.

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Postby Batman on Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:07 pm

Keep in mind that the video was produced by a British broadcaster, so they didn't have access to all the facts and mindset. But the MCCC crosstraining into a Navigator must have been by their request. In the day, one busts back to DMCCC, not to a career field that requires such extensive training. Heck, they may have crosstrained INTO Minuteman as a career broadening move to gain documented Command time. That was done routinely by rated folks when I was in.
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Postby TerrorOfTucson on Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:56 pm

I just watched the last of the video, and don't understand how the crit could kill his career in missiles. I recall a number of busts, and the crews were retrained, passed the re-evaluation, and were back on crew. And yes, an evaluator failing went back on line crew.
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Re: Use this topic for all posts for now.

Postby TerrorOfTucson on Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:10 pm

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Postby Batman on Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:14 pm

An insight "downrange"...

'Dead Hand' and Bunkers: This is How Russia Can Survive Potential Nuclear Attack
https://sputniknews.com/russia/20170131 ... r-defense/
United States intelligence and Strategic Command (STRATCOM) are working on a report evaluating the probability of the Russian and Chinese leadership to survive in the event of a nuclear strike, according to a section of the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

Congress Commissions Study on What Would Happen if US Preemptively Nuked Russia
Congress wants the document to contain descriptions of "the location and description of above-ground and underground facilities important to the political and military leadership survivability, command and control, and continuity of government programs and activities of each respective country."
Meanwhile, on Friday, Trump ordered the Pentagon to prepare another document, a Nuclear Posture Review, aimed at assessing the readiness of the US nuclear deterrence forces...
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Postby Batman on Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:21 pm

Meanwhile, in the PRC...

China tested new missile capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads: report
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac ... g-multiple
China reportedly tested a new version of a missile that can carry multiple nuclear warheads last month, amid heightened anxiety over ties with the United States.

But one mainland analyst cautioned that such a test would not be tied to the change in American leadership, given the months of preparation it requires.
The Dongfeng-5C missile, carrying 10 dummy warheads, was launched from the Taiyuan Space Launch Centre in Shanxi province, and flew to a desert in western China, the Washington Free Beacon reported on Tuesday, citing two unnamed defence officials...
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Postby TerrorOfTucson on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:26 pm

Good morning to all members of the Loyal Order Of Molemen! It's Missileers Day again.
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Postby rkfoos on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:52 pm

And, to all you former Minot-ers out there - Happy Missileers Day. Current temp: -1; sky is sunny. Six more weeks of winter. However, it is forecast to get above 10 degrees today. Sounds like a car washing day up there.

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Postby MajorG1000 on Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:23 pm

Happy belated Missileer's day. As I get older, I become more and more depressed with the level of education of the people I deal with day to day. Examples range from how other "authorities' must verify and approve the president's authorization to use nuclear weapons, either during wartime or peacetime; to proof that the Nazis had built a "flying saucer" ( Hannebu II) capable of flying at 35,000 km/hr, and that they were used to secret away top Nazis to Antarctica when the Third Reich fell. (The latter based solely upon the release of a plastic model and a You Tube video). The former, however is more worrisome in light of current vocalizations between the United States and the USSR...oops..sorry, Russia. People also believe that if one nation starts a nuclear war, the rest of the world will launch mass retaliations until the earth is a smoldering cinder, and that in itself is enough to deter a nuclear Armageddon. In their minds there is no limited nuclear option. In my mind there is, and it is conceivably worse than the smoldering cinder scenario. We all know that deterrence works ONLY because we have people willing to unquestioningly follow the authenticated orders from the Commander in Chief. The down side to this deterrence is twofold. We can never make a mistake concerning the deployment of these weapons, and our Commander in Chief must be of such a mind and temperament that our deterrent forces would and COULD only be used when all other forms of diplomacy (including conventional war) have failed. I am not feeling very secure in my mind about the latter part of that statement right now with the current administration.
In the movie "Dr. Strangelove", General Jack D. Ripper pontificates that "...today's politicians nether have the time nor the inclination for strategic thought..." and that the nation's defense or war is too important to be left to them. Never in my mind have I ever questioned the idea of civilian control of our military... I would hate to think that maybe General Ripper was right.

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Postby TerrorOfTucson on Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:10 pm

Be of good cheer. Nuclear war is bad for business, and Mr. Trump is yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge on business.
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Postby pfflier on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:01 am

I served in the 394th ICBMTMS from 1978 to 1980. Col Edward Payne was our CO then. I cannot find anything online except for a patch that talks about the squadron during that period. Am I missing something? It was a great group of people that deserves more recognition.
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New Russian Cruise Missile

Postby ornurse362 on Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:51 am

If we (develop and) deploy our own new cruise missile, will I be recalled to active duty?

Will I get an all-terrain wheelchair for deployments?
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